The PX-200ii isn't bad if you get the Apple version, and boost the bass and treble a little. Of course, Tyll loves it as is, so maybe that boost doesn't have to be more than 1 or 2 db. But I have to give Jude credit. In spite of his highly recommended on the Smeggy, he did caveat on the sound in several aspects. He didn't complain about the physical quality, so that begs the question of whether his order got special treatment. What? Oh, sorry - I know that couldn't happen.